Peter GANDER's case:
Party in a lock-up house not considered as in actual custody under an insolvent
Act. - On a motion made by Mr. Jones, and supported by Sir Fletcher Norton,
The Question was 'whether a person was intitled to be discharged under the
late* Insolvent Debtor's Act whose case was this: The man was not in the actual
custody of the gaoler, on the day specified in the Act; but was in the custody
of an officer, in a house of safety (a spunging-house). He was not included
in the first part of the gaoler's list; but he was in the second part. The
Court of Sessions of London had holden him not to be intitled to his discharge,
as an object of this statute. Lord Mansfield inclined, that the Sessions were
in the right; as this was a positive law. And the jurisdiction is given to
the Quarter-Sessions: so there seems no way of coming at, if they were wrong.
The recorder was very candid, in offering to come into any method that could
be thought of. But - Per Lord Mansfield - We can do nothing in it.'
(*IG.3,c.17)
[.. and no, the above doesn't mean much to me either - neither can I judge which 'Peter Gander' this might be]
Corporation of London Record Office (Ref DS15/53 Ludgate )
A true Schedule of Account of all the Real Estate etc which William GANDAR
formerly of Cross Street, Islington in County of Middlesex late of the Sign
of the Mitre, Upper Street, Islington aforesaid, Plaisterer (sic), who was
on the first Day of May last and am now a Prisoner in the Custody of the Keeper
of His Majesty's Prison of Ludgate under the Sheriffs of London:
'None'.
Signed 16 Jul 1811 'Wm.GANDAR'
Witnessed by John TEAGUE (Keeper)
Corporation of London Record Office
Thomas GANDAR late of Tower Street in the City of London, Tin Plate Worker,
now prisoner in Woodstreet Comptor in the City of London.
[The schedule gave interesting list of people who owed him money, the amounts,
how their debts to him became due and their addresses.) Thomas reckoned the
total owed him by these people was (GBP) £202-9s-0d.
Signed 14 Sep 1761 Thos. Gandar]
The only genealogical info. I could see was a reference to 'all my right title and interest of etc to my Mother's Will and all my other other Relations'. A Mr. Thos. HARDING mentioned as 'doing a judgement of my household goods and stock.
25 May 1613
Robert RUTTER of Harlington, Yeoman, and William GANDER of Littleton, Yeoman,
for Thomas PONSEY of the same, tailor, to stand to the Justice's order touching
the keeping of a bastard child begotten by him on the body of Katherine WOODYEARE,
his late servant.
1613: William GANDER mentioned as 'sub-constable of the hundred of Spelthorne under Littleton' [marked as 'sick']'. [Similar entry for 1614, but not then sick].
1613: Robert RUTTER of Littleton, Yeoman and John COLLYER of the same, shoemaker, handed over in bail to William GANDER of the same, Yeoman, and Richard MURDOCKE of Old Brentford, Waterman, to appear before Overseers of the Poor of Littleton, for contempt of divers warrants sent to them from the Justices for collection on money for the Poor.
p.13 Thomas GANDER, of Stanwell, Victualler, to appear, and from henceforth not to keep victualling at Stanwell aforesaid, for returning divers of the inhabitants within the hundred of Spelthorne and not giving them summons on petition.
10 Feb1613/4 - Elizabeth wife of John GANDER of Littleton (Shepperton) Labourer and Suysan, wife of Thomas SIMPSON (SYMPSON) of the same, Labourer, for stealing 3 hens worth 10 pence from William GANDER of the same. The said Elizabeth at large. (Sessions Roll 530/1, 2, 72 GDR 2/17d, 19, 19d).
Southwark Assizes 20 Feb 1612:
No.453: Edward DUFFEILD, and Thomas BARDINGE, Labourers of Thursley, indicted for grand larceny. On 18 Nov 1611 at Thursley they stole 2 pieces of iron (worth 6 shillings and 8 pence), a small iron 'flat' (8 pence), 3 pieces of iron (30 pence) and several pieces of iron (15 shillings) from Sir Edward MORE and Henry NEEDLER, gentleman. John CHITTYE, of Godalming, blacksmith, William CHILD, of Thursley, blacksmith, William HAINES, of Thursley, butcher and John GANDER, of Elstead, tailor, are indicted as accessories. Escaped (sic).
Writs for above 6 people issued (John GANDER down then as 'GAND'). Ditto Southwark Assizes 1 Jul 1613.
Southwark Assizes, 28 Feb 1616:
No.787. John GANDER, of St. Saviour, Southwark, Labourer: indicted for grand larceny. On 29 Dec 1615 at St. Saviour he stole 18 shillings in money from the person of an unknown man. BITTEN, Stephen of St.Saviour, Labourer, is indicted as an accessory. Not Guilty (there was a jury).
No.1282 - Writ issued for Roger GANDER of Santon in Reigate
followed by another 5 Writs issued from the same court for the same man as
follows, on:
17 Jul 1622
5 Mar 1623
9 Jul 1623
10 Mar 1624
30 Jun 1624
[I wonder what he'd done..]
M129. William MACHIN of Reigate, oatmealman in GBP10 sureties, John WALTER, husbandman and William MATHEW, oatmealman (both) of the same in GBP5 each. Condition: to appear .... to answer.. concerning stealing ducks from Thomas SKELTON of Reigate, yeoman, and a linen cloth from Richard GANDER of the same, gentleman, and to abide .. and not to depart....
Easter Session, Document No.25: (from calendar)
Notice to the Churchwardens and Overseers of Bisley of the intention of John LEE and Edward FREEMAN to move the court to discharge the recognizance entered into by them on behalf of Thomas GANDER charged by Martha FRICH with being the father of her bastard child.
Kept at London Metropolitan Archives:
Reference No Acc/0218/1-5: Brief for Plaintiff in Courtt of Common Pleas.
John GANDAR, plantiff, and Richard Henry SHELDRICK, defendant. Action to recover
damages for seizure of household goods and furniture under GBP50 execution
issued from Palace Court in action at suit of defendant v. William Charles
FISHER, landlord of plaintiff. Annexed draft notices and orders, and office
copy of execution order from Palace Court.
Acc/0218/2-4: Notes of fees in case of GANDAR v. SHELDRICK.
Acc/0218/5 Letter: John GANDAR to his attorney, asking how the case is progressing
& quoting extract from 'Morning Advertiser' about compensation
to officers of defunct Palace Court. [The Palace Court was in practice for
the recovery of small debts & was abolished from 1 Aug 1849.]
Summary of these records seen by DG Feb 1999:
Scrawled notes on documents refer to 'Sarah GANDAR and father lives at (?)Roman
Rd, Bow'.
10 Aug 1849...John GANDAR, a Bookbinder, of 9 Baden Place, Cambridge Heath,
refers to 'himself and wife and 6 children'.
"In the month of Aug 1848 Petitioner (ie John GANDAR) and his family
had resolved upon emigrating to Australia. Having shipped his bedding and
other necessories, paid the passage money about GBP80 and embarked in London
but in consequence of severe illness in his family, he on reaching Plymouth
found it necessary to abandon his intention and forfeiting the passage money
they disembarked and remained there until the month of October when they
returned to London and took apartments in Prescott Street, Goodman's fields
and he then began to refurnish his house but being somewhat straightened
in circumstances he determined to purchase what he required from time to
time at Auctions and other places as opportunities offered for, for several
occasions one of his sons was present when he purchased part of the goods
seized. From Prescott Street he removed on 27th November to Clayland Road,
Kennington, where he purchased the good will and fixtures of a General Shop
of a Mrs Birch for GBP42 paying also for the stock but not finding the shop
answer his expectations he resold it in January 1849 and removed to Berkley
Str, Lambeth temporarily, from thence to Martha Street, Haggerstone, and
from there to Mr Fishers, No. 9 Baden Place (Cambridge Heath, Hackney)...."
'Plaintiff's Proofs': listed Sarah GANDER, Sophia GANDER, Ellen GANDER and
James GANDER [or did I mistranscribe? GANDAR? - DG].
[My reading of the above is that John GANDAR and family's belongings got
seized in error following another action by a William Charles FISHER against
the GANDAR's landlord at the time: Richard Henry SHELDRICK, and which judgement
must have resulted in a seizure of SHELDRICK's belongings - but somehow
John GANDAR's belongings, although a tenant, got caught up in this too.]