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GANDERs and GANDARs in 'The Times' Logo. of London


From 'Palmer's Index' - Page 1

27 Jul 1801 p.2 col.a: under 'Bankrupts':
'Wm. GANDAR, St.John's-street, plasterer.'

3 Aug 1801 p.3 col.d:
'Meetings of Creditors at Guildhall - This day: W. GANDER, St.John's-street, plasterer M1 N10 (?).'

4 Sep 1801 p.3 col.d:
'Meeting of Creditors at Guildhall - Tomorrow Sept 5: W. GANDER, St.John-street, plasterer 3 10.'

4 Dec 1809 p.2 col.d:
'At Marlborough Str Magistrates - (Summary of newspaper report by Des Gander) - A Capt. ROLFES, a Dutch Capt. (lodging when in England at 'Mrs Scott's in St.Catherine's, Wapping') was in company with a friend William GANDER - left Wapping - had a drink in a public house in Drury Lane - there was a dispute at the end of the evening regarding 'the reckoning'. A Watchman was called, the Capt. ROLFES was charged with stealing a key, and Mr. GANDER with assault.

- the result of the court hearing was that 'all parties were discharged'.

1 Nov 1811 p.4 col.a:
'Meeting of Creditors at Guildhall for Nov 2 - F. GANDER, K. GANDER and A. GARDDNER(sic), Cannon Street, Merchants [div.] (?)12.'

8 Jul 1826 p.2 col.a: 'Bankrupts:
Edward GANDAR, Bedford-place, Commercial-road, brazier, July 15, 22, Aug 18, at the Bankrupt's Court, Basinghall-street. Solicitor, Mr Baddeley, Leman-street, Goodman's fields.'

1 Dec 1829 p.3 col.e:
'Worship Street. Michael GANDER, a decent looking young man, was re-examined before Mr. Bennett charged with stealing a small box, containing a number of silver spoons and several gold mourning and other rings, from the house of Mrs M'Auliff, Weymouth-terrace. The prisoner had been a lodger in the house for five or six weeks, but on Wednesday night having sent the servant girl out of the parlour on some frivolous errand, he had disappeared from the place when she returned, and with him the property in question. He was taken into custody last week in Bishopsgate-church, in the act of leading to the altar a smart servant girl, who had consented to be his wife.

He was remanded, to give further time for tracing the property.'

(I have further record of this Michael; he was transported to Australia and given a 'Ticket of Leave or Pardon' in 1839. There is a description of him with previous occupation in 'Convict Indents' in the State Library of New South Wales).

10 Dec 1836 p.6 col.e: 'Bankruptcies:
Joshua Darwin GANDER, Brill-row, Somers-town, licensed victualler, Dec 16, Jan 20, at 12 o'clock, at the Bankrupts' Court; solicitor, Mr. Dimmock, Bond-court, Walbrook; official assignee, Mr. Abbott.

2 Mar 1838 p.7 col.b:
'East Sussex Adjourned Trial of Prisoners. Epiphany Sessions in Lewes 21 Feb 1838. George GANDER, Labourer, aged 45 stood indicted for stealing at Herstmonceux, two bushells (sic) of wheat, the property of Thomas ARKCOLL. Guilty, and having been convicted of a felony, sentenced to seven years transportation.'

6 Jun 1838 p.6 col.d: The GANDER mentioned below can be identified as Charles Buck GANDAR (also GANDER) c.1814-1886.

'Civil Action - HANDLEY v GANDER:
Sheriff's Court, Red Lion Square June 5th (before Mr.Under-Sheriff Burchell). This was an action for false imprisonment. Mr. Miller stated the case on the part of the plaintiff and called the following witnesses:

George Mason - I am captain in the 4th, or King's Own Regiment, and lived in the month of April last at 52, Brook Street, Grosvenor Square. Jane Handley, the sister of the plaintiff, was lady's maid to my wife. She was at this time ill, and I thought it better she should go to her friends in the country. Plaintiff came between 10 and 11 o'clock on the night of the 30th of April to my house. His sister's things were given to him. I gave him a check for her wages £4-6s (ie 4GBP and 6 shillings), on Messrs Coutts and Co; it was on plain paper. I told him he could get it cashed if he took it to someone who knew him. He came back in about three quarters of an hour and said that he had taken it to the defendant who keeps the Prince Regent in Seymour-place, Marylebone, where he was in the habit of going, and that the defendant said it was a forgery. I immediately wrote a note or certificate, and sent my servant back with him. They did not return, and I was fetched about 10 o'clock by a policeman to the station-house, where the plaintiff and my servant were in custody for uttering a forged check. Upon my explaining the circumstances, they were liberated. Andrew Atkins stated, he was a servant to the last witness in April last, and now to Admiral Stewart, and confirmed the testimony of his master. Thomas Bain, 79D, stated he took the plaintiff into custody by order of the defendant. It was two hours from the time he first took them until they were liberated.

William Arrowsmith, 17D, said he was acting inspector on the 30th April and confirmed the statement of the last witness as to the time the plaintiff was in custody. Mr. C. Jones addressed the Jury for the defendant in mitigation of damages, and the Under-Sheriff, having summed up, the Jury returned a verdict for the plaintiff. Damages GBP2, costs 40s.'

09 May 1840 p.6 col.d: 'Thames Police Court:
On Thursday two women named Elizabeth GANDER and Elizabeth CLARKE, paupers belonging to Wapping Workhouse comprised in the Stepney Union, were brought before Mr. BALLANTINE charged with being disorderly and acting contrary to the rules of the house.

SUTTON, the master of the house, stated that a few minutes previously, one of the prisoners came to him in a very rough sort of manner, and said she wanted to get her discharge, because she had quarrelled with the other prisoner about the picking of some oakum. He immediately called the police and gave both of them into custody.

Mr. BALLANTINE - Does the Act of Parliament say that I am to discuss every wrangle that takes place in a workhouse?
SUTTON - One spoke very abruptly, and the other used saucy words to her.
Mr. BALLANTINE - And you want me to decide upon this!
SUTTON - Yes, Sir, they ought to be punished for disorder and riot.
Mr. BALLANTINE - Have you any evidence that they were guilty of riotous and disorderly conduct?
SUTTON - They acknowledged to me that they scolded each other. They can explain it to you.
Mr. BALLANTINE - I will not call upon them to convict themselves out of their own mouths. I think you could settle a wrangle between two women concerned in picking oakum without bringing them here. A few words of remonstrance, or a separation for a short time, would have succeeded. If they create a disturbance, or do anything to set aside the regulations or economy of the house, bring them here, and if a case is made out I can punish them.
SUTTON - She spoke to me very abruptly.
Mr. BALLANTINE - Nonsense; they are all abrupt. Do you expect much gentility from these women? Is this a case to bring here?
SUTTON - They were disorderly no doubt, but it is impossible for me to hear everything.
Mr. BALLANTINE - Well, then, stop till you do hear something, and then bring the parties here.
SUTTON - Others did hear, your Worship.
Mr. BALLANTINE - Well, then, where are they?
SUTTON - I have not brought them.
Mr. BALLANTINE - The women must be discharged. Show me that they have interfered with the general good conduct and order of the house, and I will punish them; but if it is merely a wrangle between two women I will not do it. Some allowances should be made for the peculiarities of women circumstanced as these are.

The woman GANDER here burst into tears, and said the tyranny of the master and the rules of the workhouse were quite insupportable. She had a child five years old separated from her in Limehouse workhouse, belonging to the union and she only wanted to go out and see it, but was denied permission. When she asked the master for an order he locked her up. She had not seen her child for months, and she wanted to go out and see how it was getting on, and ask the father for some support for it.

Mr. BALLANTINE - Apply to the board of guardians, and do it respectfully, and I am sure they will do what is right; and if it is proper that you should do so, they will let you see your child.
SUTTON - She does only fancy that, Sir. She wants to go out and look after her child.
Mr. BALLANTINE - There is nothing very extraordinary in a mother's wishing to see her offspring.
SUTTON - Yes, Sir, but she will not come back again.
Mr. BALLANTINE - If she does not, you will have no cause to complain.

The prisoner CLARKE begged leave to speak. She wished to know if she was to be confined for ever in the union workhouse? She had a quarrel with her husband, who had ill-used her, and put herself into the house. Her husband paid the guardians 4s per week for her support, and she was obliged to work very hard, so that the union gained by her. She had been confined six months in the workhouse and was not even allowed a drop of warm water or say tea. A little cold water only was given her when she went to bed.

Mr. BALLANTINE - If you have any complaint to make apply to the board of guardians, but do it in a proper manner. If you are ill-used you can always come here, but you must not be wrangling.
CLARK - I do not wish to wrangle, Sir, but the place is worse than a prison, and why should I be punished so? My husband allows the guardians 4s per week, and I cannot have a drop of tea or warm water, I wish to leave the place.
GANDER - may I go and see my child, Sir?
SUTTON - They have the dietary of the house, and I shall take them back. I shall have occasion to bring them here again to be punished.
Mr. BALLANTINE - I don't know that.
SUTTON - They are dreadful bad characters.
Mr. BALLANTINE - I differ with you; I don't think they are.

The latter part of this conversation was going on as the prisoners were leaving the bar, and they retired with the master of the union-house, crying loudly.'

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